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Obama: The man who fell to earth chat

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Sam K.
02/03/2010 8:30 PM

Sad but true. That was not all. Remember when Bush was laughed at for trying to go thru a locked door? I don't recall the same laughter when Obama tryed to go thru a window at the white house. Or saying "I don't know the facts" and then going on to basically call a Boston policeman racist.

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Sam K.
02/03/2010 7:50 PM

Bob K- Point well taken. Yes I agree. It is a short list of tax cutting presidents. My point of 5:13 post still stands. Tax cuts do not mean it cost x amount of dollars. The economy grew in all cases. There is something called "Laffer curve" . I believe it was named after Art Laffer (not positive of first name) but it has to do with be over taxed. It sets a curve of when over taxing people start hiding money etc.. Maybe that could explained better but that is the best I can do.

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Bob K.
Atwater, MN     02/03/2010 6:57 PM

Sam K. would you not agree JFK did expand our role in the Vietnam War, I might add, quite reluctantly by sending special forces, helicopters and assisting with the collaboration of overthrowing the Diem Goverment? While this was described as an "unauthorized war", we did supply troops, assistance, and advisors. This was primarly the result of President Kennedy's belief America should “Pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend…to assure the survival and success of liberty ”. Only after the declaration of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution by Congress, did President Johnson expand the conflict to a much greater scale.

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Sam K.
02/03/2010 6:30 PM

Laurie G- Your answer is one president. G.W. Bush. Only three have cut taxes JFK,Reagan and GW Bush. All had saw the economy grow.(Milton Friedman economics). Please read my 5:13 post. Now please answer my question. How many presidents have raised govt. spending to 25% of the GNP and saw the economy grow? Only FDR has spent close to that much and we remained in a depression for a decade. But please I'll wait. And who was the economist that recommened it?

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Bob K.
Atwater, MN     02/03/2010 5:20 PM

Luke J. I think the first thing you need to do, using the logic you posted, write to the President and tell him this - " You are the President, you were elected based on what you said you can do to improve this economy, so, forget blaming the previous Administrations and show us what you have". Right now all I see is blaming Bush, lots of help to the big guys in the financial arena but little in helping my neighbor get a job or helping the struggling hardware store on main street. One other item, talk to the people, not down to the people which is the primary element of building consensus.

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Sam K.
02/03/2010 5:14 PM

casey- That was from Reuters. I cut and pasted it. Reuters is left of center news.

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Sam K.
02/03/2010 5:13 PM

The left likes to put a cost on cutting taxes. Some really do not realize that growth would not have been as large if not for the tax cuts. So you really can not find out what it cost. It was proably a gain rather than a lose. Again record amounts of revenue flowed into the govt. during the tax cuts. When the capital gains tax was cut,revenue increased. Also a tax cut is not giving somebody something if they pay taxes it is letting them keep more of what they earned.Democrats want to give tax cuts to people that do not pay (income) taxes. That is a handout or redistribution.

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Brian W.
Olivia, MN     02/03/2010 2:50 PM

and Luke I would agree with your statement..

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Brian W.
Olivia, MN     02/03/2010 2:36 PM

I believe Regan did...You know what I don’t get…When Reagan took over office inflation was at 14%, interest was at 18% and the unemployment was at 13% He had it cut in half in 18 months or less…. From what I have researched and read he didn’t sit there and blame it on Carter he just fixed it…. He took the highest tax bracket which was taxed into the 70 percentile down to 36 % and told those people do what you do to create jobs

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Luke J.
02/03/2010 2:07 PM

I'm changing my tune. I'm looking for people who will acknowledge that there is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us, that no one is perfect, that Bush did some good things, Obama has done some good things, and that what is best for all of us is to come together, find consensus when and where we can, make compromises, and lead and govern. This extremism and bitter partisanship has to come to an end. It serves no purpose.

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