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Published March 08, 2010

Obama hits insurance companies, GOP in speech to build support for health care reform chat

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dar l.
Paynesville, MN     03/12/2010 8:58 AM

It would be of interest to me to see the IQ scores of both of these presidents, as well. And their birth certificates, ties to oil companies, lobbyists, pharmaceutical companies, unions. The list goes on and on.

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Carie L.
Granite Falls, MN     03/10/2010 4:53 PM

Didn't feel it was personally motivated at all, Pamela - just unobservant on your part, like I said. (Try not to read between lines that aren't there, ok?) I will, however, apologize for expecting your attention to detail to be the same as mine... it was unfair of me, and, honestly, yesterday was just one of "those" days for me. I was snippy - I apologize. Re; GWB's intelligence - sure, he did well utilizing his family name and connections (business and political)... which, I suppose was smart of him. I would be interested to see IQ scores of both men, for comparison purposes... However, to infer that I "obviously think this president is more intelligent" is just that - an inference on your part. To clarify - I did not say GWB was unintelligent... I did say that I didn't think he "ran things" intelligently... meaning that he was, instead, reactionary as opposed to thoughtful in his decision making. There is a difference.

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Pamela D.
Buffalo, MN     03/09/2010 9:15 PM

Carrie, I could care less how you spell my name or if I have misspelled yours. You're a little thin skinned if you feel the misspelling of your name is personally motivated... Maybe that's why you believe Bush was reactionary, emotional and spiteful - but to question his intelligence while you obviously believe this President has more intelligence is just more of those rose colored glasses.

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Carie L.
Granite Falls, MN     03/09/2010 9:46 AM

Pammela - I didn't, and don't, hate GWB... I disagreed with many of his ideas and policies... but when he said something that made sense (which wasn't nearly often enough) to me, I would agree with him. I certainly didn't feel like he was "running things" with a whole lot of intelligence... but, rather, with emotion and sometimes even spite. Bush was reactionary, and selfishly motivated too often, in my opinion. However - don't confuse my disapproval with hatred. And I certainly never accused the man of heading up a major conspiracy... which is what Harold does, daily. (I'm sorry - was I so unobservant that I misspelled your name...?)

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jake C.
Willmar, MN     03/09/2010 9:40 AM

Let's leave things the way they are now. I don't like how much my insurance costs, how much it increases each year, but at least I'm gainfully employed and can afford it. Plus, the insurance companies need their money, too. As for those who can't afford insurance or who are underinsured, heck with them. For most of them, it's probably their own fault. They should have stayed in school, studied harder, gotten better jobs, etc. It's a tough world....everyone's on their own.

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Karen T.
Willmar, MN     03/09/2010 8:53 AM

Fear and anger? Is it possible that emotions will control the comments on this article? In my opinion, the campaign against heathcare reform began years before President Obama was elected president!

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Rick C.
Willmar, MN     03/09/2010 8:37 AM

Why was Jefferson so much more intelligent than the current people running our government? (or the previous administrations) Jefferson said in a letter to Samuel Kercheval, written in the early 19th Century: "To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." And in a letter to James Madison: "The conclusion then, is, that neither the representatives of a nation, nor the whole nation itself assembled, can validly engage debts beyond what they may pay in their own time."

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Tim N.
03/08/2010 11:34 PM

I listened to Rush Limbaugh today and most of the time I dont buy his rhetoric but he made a valid point today, if this reform passes and preexisting condition can't stop you from getting coverage whats going to stop people from not having insurance til they need it? The fine for individuals that they are talking about is approx, 5k for the wealthiest people, when you look at what coverage actually costs per year that would be cheap.

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Bob K.
Atwater, MN     03/08/2010 11:06 PM

This is proof the man can talk out of both sides of his mouth - and without a teleprompter. "A Complicated Enemy: Obama Seeks to Vilify Health Insurers, Give Them $336 Billion Check" http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/03/a-complicated-enemy-obama-seeks-to-vilify-health-insurers-give-them-336-billion-check.html

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Bob K.
Atwater, MN     03/08/2010 10:45 PM

I don't know if anyone else noticed it or not but President Obama had better get his stories straight. Last week in a speech, he said he had met with health insurance executives and asked them what was causing the insurance premium increases. He further quoted them by saying "the executives didn't know". Yesterday in his campaign speech at Arcadia College, he said he had been talking to an insurance broker. Today, it has been reported he had talked with an insurance industry stock analyst from Goldman Sachs. This man has pertpetuated the biggest charade on the American people you have ever seen. What is most egregious of the whole situtation is the people who embraced this charade, hook, line, and sinker. dean t. is among the many who won't understand when his 401K or 403B plan value suddenly drops. Since many of the plans are heavily invested in insurance companies and the greatest source of growth value are due to dividends from operations.

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